Far Cough
10:48 Sun Dec 17
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Top man was Stanley, Stoke are well proud of him
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gph
10:37 Sun Dec 17
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Yes.
He played as an amateur for another ten years.
Read that he only ever had one drink - champagne out of the FA Cup.
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Far Cough
10:13 Sun Dec 17
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top flight*
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Far Cough
10:13 Sun Dec 17
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Mathews was 50 when he quit to flight football wasn't he?
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Alex V
10:03 Sun Dec 17
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Sell Snodgrass? Yes. Or do you mean sell Payet? We did!
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gph
10:03 Sun Dec 17
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A wide man set the oldest appearance record for England.
Stanley Matthews.
It was in a World Cup qualifier, and he also played in two earlier qualifiers in the same campaign, so not meaningless matches.
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cartis
10:03 Sun Dec 17
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Nice enough bloke
Clueless manger.
Delighted he's gone.
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geoffpikey
9:49 Sun Dec 17
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Alex. Snodgrass is 6 months YOUNGER than Payet. Maybe Slaven and Sullivan both really wanted to sell the "ancient" sod? That's what you'd have done, right?
Anyway, I'm "moving forward with David". Because you can't go back.
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Far Cough
7:13 Sun Dec 17
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Giggs played wide for Man U at the age of 40
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chim chim cha boo
7:13 Sun Dec 17
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West Ham have never really had decent fitness levels compared to other teams- with Allardyce's Championship season side excluded.
In fact, the last time a Scot tried imposing a strict fitness regime there was almost a player revolt. Under Lou Macari I remember loads of complaints that 'all he does is make us run and run'. We've always relied on three or four superb ball-on-the-floor players and although it won us some cups it hasn't really worked from the 80s onwards.
The English game has changed significantly since Bilic was a player and now you basically have to be a sprinter in a football shirt.
Laudable though it was to have high ideas for West Ham and have players comfortable playing in many different positions and swapping wings, you need very talented, clever players to play that way and despite having a decent squad it all got very, very messy by the end.
That's why Moyes has stripped it back to basics. Players are not playing roles they're uncomfortable with, or if they are they're told they are just filling-in temporarily.
He's also not really tinkering like Bilic did which started to wind me up. We'd have a decent performance one week and next week there would be three changes.
Bilic, clever bloke that he is, will learn a lot from his time at the club and no doubt become a better manager for it.
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Alex V
6:59 Sun Dec 17
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30 is ancient for a wide player. Peak age for that role maybe 25. Hard to name another 30 year old playing effectively in a wide role at prem level. And of course Snodgrass is 30 now but we contracted him up pretty much to his 33rd birthday. Awful indefensible decision-making, the club should be embarrassed. For all his faults, at least Sullivan has the honesty to admit it.
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geoffpikey
6:19 Sun Dec 17
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God, this goes on and on...
BUT: Alex V, Snodgrass is 30. That's not OLD. Not really. He's a decent player too: we just paid over the odds as happens in a January. And then he was played in wrong positions.. despite being the (as good as) replacement for Payet... albeit a ten-grades down replacement. Best we could get. Then used badly. Well done, everyone!
All this "I hope Bilic gets a good job". Well, I hope he gets a job he's good at, let's put it like that. I mean CONSISTENTLY good at.
Dwarfo's slagging is typical of him, but what do we expect. The KIng is dead... long live the king. If WHOers (and others) weren't HOWLING so much about Moyes being a shit appointment, Sullivan may have kept his mouth a bit more shut. Doubtful, but it's a possibility. As it was, he's just being highly defensive. And come on, hes not going to say it was all HIS fault is he? No-one would. He's got enough of a complex already because in HIS MIND he's moved WHU forward, yet he is still hated. It must be a nightmare being in his thick head.
The ONLY way this era gets any better is that we start being a real force. And that's by winning games, which had clearly come to a reliable end under Slaven despite s having a decent squad. Whether Moyes can deliver this, we don't know yet. He's made a fair start. Just "fair".
I don't really care where Bilic goes. I didn't start supporting Everton when he left before. Respect to his best (but insufficient) efforts, but see ya.
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Sarge
5:55 Sun Dec 17
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Sold 233
Same here
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gph
5:27 Sun Dec 17
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His tactics were spot on at Anfield and Man City.
The long term effect of his coaching methods, or lack thereof, may have been picked up by the more astute observer - i.e., about 95% of them.
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terry-h
4:11 Sun Dec 17
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I expect Brady will tune into next Sunday's Goals on Sunday to make sure Bilic doesn't break any confidentiality clause in his pay off agreement.
The midget and his two sprogs will no doubt be all ears just in case he lets anything slip about them.
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Lily Hammer
3:52 Sun Dec 17
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After our 2-0 win at Arsenal, Bilic's first PL game, in the post match interview, being as honest as always, Bilic said the backs to the wall defensive display was down to Allardyce and how well the team had learnt from him.
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claret on my shirt
3:52 Sun Dec 17
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Northern Sold 3:40 Sun Dec 17
and almost get us in the Champs League. As the song goes "Super Slaven Bilic!"
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Northern Sold
3:40 Sun Dec 17
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Well he seemed to coach us alright to go to Anfield and Man City and turn them over.... must of been a lucky fluke...
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gph
3:01 Sun Dec 17
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He doesn't know how to coach.
If he really learns the lessons from his time with us, he'll get in a number two who does know how to coach - not just fitness, but getting the players to play as a unit to the tactics Bilic chooses.
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Alex V
2:55 Sun Dec 17
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Iron2010 2:49 Sun Dec 17
Yes he does. But he does not go into depth about signing him at West Ham. On the occasions he has mentioned it he has been more vague about it. I think it's likely that it wasn't so much his deal, if we're trying to sift through who did what behind the scenes.
My overall impression of Bilic is that a major weakness was his assessment of players, current and prospective. Not all managers have a good football eye. I think he mis-read his own squad and many of his key signings - that's a pretty crucial weakness in the modern game imo.
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Iron2010
2:49 Sun Dec 17
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Alex V 1:35 Sun Dec 17
Slav goes into depth about wanting to sign Lanzini from Argentina when Bilic was in Turkey. He continued that they couldn't match the money being offered in the East.
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